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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://blog.geocaching.com/2011/08/the-eureka-moment-challenges/comment-page-1/#comment-10463</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Further to my previous comment when I said &quot;something that people can do without actually requiring a GPS&quot; - I meant it as &quot;something for those people to do that don&#039;t have or don&#039;t want to have a GPS - a harmless inexpensive hobby.  Now that I say it like that, maybe it should be a separate website with the people that belong to both to have the option to have it show up on their stat page (but still not included in the cache total).  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further to my previous comment when I said &#8220;something that people can do without actually requiring a GPS&#8221; &#8211; I meant it as &#8220;something for those people to do that don&#8217;t have or don&#8217;t want to have a GPS &#8211; a harmless inexpensive hobby.  Now that I say it like that, maybe it should be a separate website with the people that belong to both to have the option to have it show up on their stat page (but still not included in the cache total).  </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://blog.geocaching.com/2011/08/the-eureka-moment-challenges/comment-page-1/#comment-10461</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with most of previous comments.  This sounds like a fun activity - altho I do agree that it should be kept separate from geocaching.  This should be a separate activity - something that people can do without actually requiring a GPS.  And I do think they should be really unique and different (not like &quot;stand on your head in a public park&quot;)  I do like the virtuals as they do take you to places you might not have known about (sacred burial sites, statues, etc) - places where containers could not be placed.  And back to geocaching itself - for some people, it&#039;s ALL about the numbers.  Otherwise why would they do the &quot;walk the trail and get one every 161 feet&quot; ones - no challenge there. I like the ones that involve a trail but more like you have to walk the 10 mile trail in just to get the cache - and then walk back out again - just for the fun of it - enjoy the scenery instead of looking for a micro every 161 feet! I do agree that the challenger activity should have its own separate area (not necessarily separate website but could be) and stats be kept separate. I think it could be included on a cacher&#039;s statistics page but not added into the geocache total.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with most of previous comments.  This sounds like a fun activity &#8211; altho I do agree that it should be kept separate from geocaching.  This should be a separate activity &#8211; something that people can do without actually requiring a GPS.  And I do think they should be really unique and different (not like &#8220;stand on your head in a public park&#8221;)  I do like the virtuals as they do take you to places you might not have known about (sacred burial sites, statues, etc) &#8211; places where containers could not be placed.  And back to geocaching itself &#8211; for some people, it&#8217;s ALL about the numbers.  Otherwise why would they do the &#8220;walk the trail and get one every 161 feet&#8221; ones &#8211; no challenge there. I like the ones that involve a trail but more like you have to walk the 10 mile trail in just to get the cache &#8211; and then walk back out again &#8211; just for the fun of it &#8211; enjoy the scenery instead of looking for a micro every 161 feet! I do agree that the challenger activity should have its own separate area (not necessarily separate website but could be) and stats be kept separate. I think it could be included on a cacher&#8217;s statistics page but not added into the geocache total.  </p>
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		<title>By: Finderskeeperz</title>
		<link>http://blog.geocaching.com/2011/08/the-eureka-moment-challenges/comment-page-1/#comment-9138</link>
		<dc:creator>Finderskeeperz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2011 00:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not sure so far I am a big fan of the Chelenges yet either, but I&#039;m willing to give it some time and let the good folks at Groundspeak come up with the solutions needed to make this an activity that most will agree on and enjoy.  Besides, these are the same people that came up with the idea of Geocaching that most of us hold so dear.  Be patient, give it some time, stop being so resistant to change and for heaven sakes, stop with all the negativety!  I would like to suggest that a peer should not be able to rate a Challenge unless they have completed it.  Otherwise, how do they know it is not worthy?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure so far I am a big fan of the Chelenges yet either, but I&#8217;m willing to give it some time and let the good folks at Groundspeak come up with the solutions needed to make this an activity that most will agree on and enjoy.  Besides, these are the same people that came up with the idea of Geocaching that most of us hold so dear.  Be patient, give it some time, stop being so resistant to change and for heaven sakes, stop with all the negativety!  I would like to suggest that a peer should not be able to rate a Challenge unless they have completed it.  Otherwise, how do they know it is not worthy?</p>
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		<title>By: Grunriese</title>
		<link>http://blog.geocaching.com/2011/08/the-eureka-moment-challenges/comment-page-1/#comment-9135</link>
		<dc:creator>Grunriese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2011 04:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Suggestion: Need to provide a means of editing and deleting your own completion logs
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suggestion: Need to provide a means of editing and deleting your own completion logs</p>
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		<title>By: tomfuller &#38; Quill</title>
		<link>http://blog.geocaching.com/2011/08/the-eureka-moment-challenges/comment-page-1/#comment-9123</link>
		<dc:creator>tomfuller &#38; Quill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 00:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do wish that Groundspeak (Jeremy) would come up with another name for these.  I completed my first geocaching challenge in 2006. It involved signing the log of a geocache in each of the 36 Counties of Oregon. When I had completed the challenge, I was able to sign the logbook. I am now working on 2 or 3 other challenges which require signing logs. 
I will not be logging any of the new &quot;challenges&quot;. I may change my mind.  I will continue to log the old virtuals if they interest me.
As for Earth Caches, I worked hard to create a good one that could be verified by me that you visited the site. I hid a container within the Earth Cache site where you have to determine the answers. You can also get the smilie for the container.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do wish that Groundspeak (Jeremy) would come up with another name for these.  I completed my first geocaching challenge in 2006. It involved signing the log of a geocache in each of the 36 Counties of Oregon. When I had completed the challenge, I was able to sign the logbook. I am now working on 2 or 3 other challenges which require signing logs.<br />
I will not be logging any of the new &#8220;challenges&#8221;. I may change my mind.  I will continue to log the old virtuals if they interest me.<br />
As for Earth Caches, I worked hard to create a good one that could be verified by me that you visited the site. I hid a container within the Earth Cache site where you have to determine the answers. You can also get the smilie for the container.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://blog.geocaching.com/2011/08/the-eureka-moment-challenges/comment-page-1/#comment-9105</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 23:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not about the numbers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not about the numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: OzGuff</title>
		<link>http://blog.geocaching.com/2011/08/the-eureka-moment-challenges/comment-page-1/#comment-9100</link>
		<dc:creator>OzGuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 19:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[sarcasm]And without the 528&#039; limitation one should be able to find/complete thousands in a few hours![/sarcasm]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[sarcasm]And without the 528&#8242; limitation one should be able to find/complete thousands in a few hours![/sarcasm]</p>
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		<title>By: misterscooter</title>
		<link>http://blog.geocaching.com/2011/08/the-eureka-moment-challenges/comment-page-1/#comment-9099</link>
		<dc:creator>misterscooter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 16:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sure, some virtuals were Photoshopped or the information was looked up on Google.  But some Geocache logs were not found/signed but were still logged.  In both cases, a person got a number added to their total but completely missed out on the fun of going to the intended spot.  Their loss.

I understand why the original virtuals were hard to maintain and verify by GC.com.  However, looking at the feedback, it is obvious that people liked them and want to be able to log a find in Yosemite or Disneyland or Hoover Dam without having to find a container that won&#039;t last.

The new Challenges may turn out to be popular and work well.  It may turn out that they replace virtuals better than expected.  But they might not.  Obviously, there are going to problems with anything in this realm.  Some of this initial backlash is anticipating this but it is too soon to know for sure.

I will offer this: allowing the internet community to vote or rate anything, even if it is made up of a specific audience such as Geocachers, opens up a big can of worms.  You can hope for objectivity but something about being online seems to ruin that in many different cases.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, some virtuals were Photoshopped or the information was looked up on Google.  But some Geocache logs were not found/signed but were still logged.  In both cases, a person got a number added to their total but completely missed out on the fun of going to the intended spot.  Their loss.</p>
<p>I understand why the original virtuals were hard to maintain and verify by GC.com.  However, looking at the feedback, it is obvious that people liked them and want to be able to log a find in Yosemite or Disneyland or Hoover Dam without having to find a container that won&#8217;t last.</p>
<p>The new Challenges may turn out to be popular and work well.  It may turn out that they replace virtuals better than expected.  But they might not.  Obviously, there are going to problems with anything in this realm.  Some of this initial backlash is anticipating this but it is too soon to know for sure.</p>
<p>I will offer this: allowing the internet community to vote or rate anything, even if it is made up of a specific audience such as Geocachers, opens up a big can of worms.  You can hope for objectivity but something about being online seems to ruin that in many different cases.</p>
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		<title>By: The Eureka Moment: Challenges &#124; Geospatial &#124; Scoop.it</title>
		<link>http://blog.geocaching.com/2011/08/the-eureka-moment-challenges/comment-page-1/#comment-9081</link>
		<dc:creator>The Eureka Moment: Challenges &#124; Geospatial &#124; Scoop.it</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 22:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Soozcat</title>
		<link>http://blog.geocaching.com/2011/08/the-eureka-moment-challenges/comment-page-1/#comment-9076</link>
		<dc:creator>Soozcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 20:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So how are the new Challenges different from things like the Photo Goals category on Waymarking?  (Aside from the fact that the Waymarking website is confusing, difficult or impossible to use on the go, and being allowed to languish by Groundspeak, that is.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So how are the new Challenges different from things like the Photo Goals category on Waymarking?  (Aside from the fact that the Waymarking website is confusing, difficult or impossible to use on the go, and being allowed to languish by Groundspeak, that is.)</p>
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