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	<title>Comments on: Geocaching Challenges &#8211; Thanks for the Feedback</title>
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		<title>By: Tundrazwolf</title>
		<link>http://blog.geocaching.com/2011/08/geocaching-challenges-thanks-for-the-feedback/comment-page-3/#comment-11742</link>
		<dc:creator>Tundrazwolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You really should bother to actually READ my entire post. I only added that to the end as a way of explaining how challenges...in their current form...detract from geocaching due to lack of creator control. IE, I CAN delete a cacher&#039;s log who log one of my caches from their armchair. I simply see if they have signed the log book or if they have the correct photo/information as applies to non-traditional caches. However, the ONE challenge I created has a user who DID NOT follow the directions and marked the challenge as complete. I would like to delete their log until they do it correctly, but cannot. 

I have no outward problem with cachers who pad numbers with bogus finds...they are only cheating themselves and I am not competitive so WTFE. BUT, if you log one of MY caches, you better have been there or I will delete your log.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You really should bother to actually READ my entire post. I only added that to the end as a way of explaining how challenges&#8230;in their current form&#8230;detract from geocaching due to lack of creator control. IE, I CAN delete a cacher&#8217;s log who log one of my caches from their armchair. I simply see if they have signed the log book or if they have the correct photo/information as applies to non-traditional caches. However, the ONE challenge I created has a user who DID NOT follow the directions and marked the challenge as complete. I would like to delete their log until they do it correctly, but cannot. </p>
<p>I have no outward problem with cachers who pad numbers with bogus finds&#8230;they are only cheating themselves and I am not competitive so WTFE. BUT, if you log one of MY caches, you better have been there or I will delete your log.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://blog.geocaching.com/2011/08/geocaching-challenges-thanks-for-the-feedback/comment-page-3/#comment-9335</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 12:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bryan
I&#039;d like to see the ability for the CO to delete logs of cachers who haven&#039;t completed the challenge correctly.
One of the good things about virtual caches and earth caches is that finders often have to email the CO with answers to questions about the location as proof that the have been to it before they can log the find.Â  I don&#039;t see why that couldn&#039;t be incorporated into a challenge as it stands but the CO should have the ability to delete a log if the challenge has not been successfully completed to their satisfaction.Â  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bryan<br />
I&#8217;d like to see the ability for the CO to delete logs of cachers who haven&#8217;t completed the challenge correctly.<br />
One of the good things about virtual caches and earth caches is that finders often have to email the CO with answers to questions about the location as proof that the have been to it before they can log the find.Â  I don&#8217;t see why that couldn&#8217;t be incorporated into a challenge as it stands but the CO should have the ability to delete a log if the challenge has not been successfully completed to their satisfaction.Â  </p>
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		<title>By: Frankie &#38; Johnny</title>
		<link>http://blog.geocaching.com/2011/08/geocaching-challenges-thanks-for-the-feedback/comment-page-3/#comment-9172</link>
		<dc:creator>Frankie &#38; Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 19:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If challenges have any merit at all they should be able to stand on their own as a fun activity. FORCING them into the geocache find totals to prevent them from becoming a, &quot;fringe activity&quot; is NOT the answer. Most of us would have no problem with moving earthcaches, event caches etc. etc. intoÂ the sameÂ group with the challenges. Leave geocaching - use your GPS - go find a container - sign a logbook to stand aloneÂ on its own. It won&#039;t have a problem doing that and does not require any artificial propping up. Challenges only cheapen the accomplishments of thousands of dedicated actual cache findersÂ and cheapen the game overall.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If challenges have any merit at all they should be able to stand on their own as a fun activity. FORCING them into the geocache find totals to prevent them from becoming a, &#8220;fringe activity&#8221; is NOT the answer. Most of us would have no problem with moving earthcaches, event caches etc. etc. intoÂ the sameÂ group with the challenges. Leave geocaching &#8211; use your GPS &#8211; go find a container &#8211; sign a logbook to stand aloneÂ on its own. It won&#8217;t have a problem doing that and does not require any artificial propping up. Challenges only cheapen the accomplishments of thousands of dedicated actual cache findersÂ and cheapen the game overall.</p>
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		<title>By: Cybercat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cybercat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 19:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I did some Challenges at the Alien Search Party this past week and they were great fun!Â 
Â I noticed several more &#039;mature&#039; cachers ( and I am quickly getting there!) taking pictures to doÂ the Challenges and we talked a bit.Â  The consensus was that even as we are getting more physically challenged to do those hard terrain caches anymore, isn&#039;t this a fun way to continue to rack up those smileys?Â  I know a couple of 80+ yr old cachers in my area who are finding it hary to do caches similar to those they had no problems with just a few years ago.Â  Why not let them ( and eventually ALL of us) continue to play without being relegated to handicap accessible events and lamppost hides?Â  Lighten up, people....we are all on our way out...let&#039;s all have as much joy in our lives as we can before they come to an end.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did some Challenges at the Alien Search Party this past week and they were great fun!Â<br />
Â I noticed several more &#8216;mature&#8217; cachers ( and I am quickly getting there!) taking pictures to doÂ the Challenges and we talked a bit.Â  The consensus was that even as we are getting more physically challenged to do those hard terrain caches anymore, isn&#8217;t this a fun way to continue to rack up those smileys?Â  I know a couple of 80+ yr old cachers in my area who are finding it hary to do caches similar to those they had no problems with just a few years ago.Â  Why not let them ( and eventually ALL of us) continue to play without being relegated to handicap accessible events and lamppost hides?Â  Lighten up, people&#8230;.we are all on our way out&#8230;let&#8217;s all have as much joy in our lives as we can before they come to an end.</p>
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		<title>By: GeekyNinja</title>
		<link>http://blog.geocaching.com/2011/08/geocaching-challenges-thanks-for-the-feedback/comment-page-3/#comment-9170</link>
		<dc:creator>GeekyNinja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today i did my first challanage today. I must say i like this better than some of the virtuals as some times theses was not suited to a location. I think you guys are shooting a idea down and not giving time for this idea to work its course. i know there are some die hard caches, for which as a cache owner i have dealt with. I am now planning my first set of challanages. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today i did my first challanage today. I must say i like this better than some of the virtuals as some times theses was not suited to a location. I think you guys are shooting a idea down and not giving time for this idea to work its course. i know there are some die hard caches, for which as a cache owner i have dealt with. I am now planning my first set of challanages. </p>
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		<title>By: DeadTechnology</title>
		<link>http://blog.geocaching.com/2011/08/geocaching-challenges-thanks-for-the-feedback/comment-page-3/#comment-9164</link>
		<dc:creator>DeadTechnology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 16:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why not review the darn things and be done with it?Â  The populace is too fickle to be relied upon to accurately vote up or down.Â  One man&#039;s trash is another man&#039;s treasure.Â  If you want to bring back virutals that are reviewed and follow a specific set of guidelines, then bring them back.Â  If you don&#039;t, then keep the current system, quit your whining and don&#039;t be surprised when they&#039;re ignored, just like waymarks and benchmarks. 

Try to understand that geocaching is NOT facebook and there&#039;s a very, very good reason for that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not review the darn things and be done with it?Â  The populace is too fickle to be relied upon to accurately vote up or down.Â  One man&#8217;s trash is another man&#8217;s treasure.Â  If you want to bring back virutals that are reviewed and follow a specific set of guidelines, then bring them back.Â  If you don&#8217;t, then keep the current system, quit your whining and don&#8217;t be surprised when they&#8217;re ignored, just like waymarks and benchmarks. </p>
<p>Try to understand that geocaching is NOT facebook and there&#8217;s a very, very good reason for that.</p>
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		<title>By: alyseluvsmike</title>
		<link>http://blog.geocaching.com/2011/08/geocaching-challenges-thanks-for-the-feedback/comment-page-3/#comment-9143</link>
		<dc:creator>alyseluvsmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2011 09:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How do I remove a challenge I accepted from my page that has been removed by groundspeak? I can&#039;t complete it and I can&#039;t delete it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do I remove a challenge I accepted from my page that has been removed by groundspeak? I can&#8217;t complete it and I can&#8217;t delete it!</p>
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		<title>By: Challenges und die (ewige) Statistikdiskussion Â« Altmetall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Challenges und die (ewige) Statistikdiskussion Â« Altmetall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 08:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] einen offenen Brief an Jeremy Irish. Bryan Roth versuchte die Wogen dann ein wenig zu glÃ¤tten und warb um eine Chance fÃ¼r die Challenges und bei den offensichtlichen SpaÃŸchallenges wurde fix gegengesteuert und dieser Unfug weitgehend [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] einen offenen Brief an Jeremy Irish. Bryan Roth versuchte die Wogen dann ein wenig zu glÃ¤tten und warb um eine Chance fÃ¼r die Challenges und bei den offensichtlichen SpaÃŸchallenges wurde fix gegengesteuert und dieser Unfug weitgehend [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Searchers L&#38;J</title>
		<link>http://blog.geocaching.com/2011/08/geocaching-challenges-thanks-for-the-feedback/comment-page-3/#comment-9127</link>
		<dc:creator>Searchers L&#38;J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 04:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that the Challenge Caches (DeLorme, fizzy, etc.) are our favorites because they ARE a challenge.Â  Most of these new Challenges thatÂ I&#039;ve seen so far, aren&#039;t.Â  PLEASE call them something else, not Challenges.Â  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the Challenge Caches (DeLorme, fizzy, etc.) are our favorites because they ARE a challenge.Â  Most of these new Challenges thatÂ I&#8217;ve seen so far, aren&#8217;t.Â  PLEASE call them something else, not Challenges.Â  </p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
		<link>http://blog.geocaching.com/2011/08/geocaching-challenges-thanks-for-the-feedback/comment-page-3/#comment-9113</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 16:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We will be separating the statistics between historical &#039;finds&#039; and challenges going forward. Â The change should be complete within the next few days.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We will be separating the statistics between historical &#8216;finds&#8217; and challenges going forward. Â The change should be complete within the next few days.</p>
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