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Help Save Our GPS! Geocachers Rally to Stop Potential GPS Signal Interference

Eric Schudiske on July 26, 2011, 1:23 pm

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Geocachers Care

Using your GPS device in the United States to find the latest geocache could end with nothing but signal interference. That’s if the current proposal before the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) by the multi-billion dollar communications giant LightSquared™ is approved. According to press reports, LightSquared’s current proposal could render tens of thousands and possibly hundreds of thousands of GPS receivers obsolete starting as early as next year. But there is something you can do about it.

The LightSquared proposal involves offering an open wireless broadband network in radio frequency bands adjacent to those used by GPS receivers. LightSquared plans to use both satellites and land-based towers to provide this service.

A report delivered to the FCC in June shows significant interference to GPS receivers from LightSquared’s operations.

Groundspeak has joined a group of those willing to raise their voices in objection to this current plan. The group is called A Coalition to Save Our GPS.  We ask that you add your voice to the conversation. Tell the FCC that the current proposal by LightSquared could affect the family friendly activity of geocaching. Here’s why.

The LightSquared cell towers reportedly cast a signal significantly more powerful than the distant GPS satellites. GPS devices cannot filter out the stronger signal, resulting in interference. Tests reported to the FCC using a simulated LightSquared network reportedly jammed GPS devices used for aviation, surveying, agriculture, the U.S. Coast Guard and personal GPS navigation devices. Tests also confirmed that ambulance and police cars lost their  GPS reception within 600 – 1,000 feet of a LightSquared tower.

The FCC has asked for feedback from the public on the report. Comments will be taken until Saturday, July 30.  The “reply to comments” period then lasts until August 15. After the public comment period is closed, the FCC can announce a decision at any time. We’re asking that geocachers, and anyone who cares about GPS, rally to make the voices of GPS device users heard.

What can I do?

Everyone who cares about GPS should let the FCC know about the threat that LightSquared poses.  In writing to the FCC, we encourage you to cover the following points in your own words:

  • How you use GPS technology in your business and/or personal life
  • What would happen to your business/personal life if GPS became unavailable or unreliable
  • While more capacity for wireless broadband services is important, it should not come at the expense of GPS, which is critical to the global economy
  • The results of the testing that was performed at the FCC’s request show that GPS reception on certain devices could be affected by LightSquared’s proposed service.
  • Now that the test results have shown interference to GPS, the FCC shouldn’t allow LightSquared to keep trying out modified versions of its plan to use the spectrum near the GPS band.  LightSquared’s operations and GPS are fundamentally incompatible and the FCC should order LightSquared out of that band.

How do I tell the FCC to save GPS?

The FCC has an easy-to-use portal on its website to submit feedback on the testing results:

(1)  Click on this link for the FCC’s Electronic Comments Filing System (ECFS):  http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/upload/begin?procName=&filedFrom=X

(2)  In the box which says “Proceeding Number,” type:  11-109. It is important to include this docket number with your comments.

(3)  In the designated boxes, enter (a) your name or your company’s name, and (b) your mailing address/city/state/zip.

(4)  In the box which says “Type in or paste your brief comments,” do so.  Click “Continue.”

(5)  A review page will load listing all of the information entered.  If correct, click “Confirm.” (6)  If you have trouble, contact the FCC ECFS Helpdesk at 202-418-0193 or e-mail at ecfshelp@fcc.gov.

 

 

 

 

  • Anonymous

    Given the  current US government’s attitude that basically lets big money corporations do anything they please, I fear that LightSquared’s plan will be approved, despite what are quite obvious dangers to public safety. I am registering my complaint with the FCC, but I’m not holding my breath that it will do any good.

  • http://twitter.com/ChrisHanson Chris Hanson

    Am I willing to buy a new GPSr that’s shielded properly (like it should have been in the first place) as a trade off to get high-speed internet everywhere for a reasonable price?  

    Heck Yes.

    The technology will work but it may break our poorly made GPSr units and require Garmin etal to actually put in proper shielding into their products.  But we’ll have wireless internet access that isn’t dependent on Verizon and AT&T’s current whims regarding how we use “their” bandwidth.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not going to sit here and disagree that our devices should have been shielded from the start (they should have been). However I don’t think the issue would magically go away just because of the shielding, a more powerful signal (especially high powered signals from the ground) are going to trump a less powerful, and much more distant signal (such as those from space), even if the more powerful signal is on another frequency.

  • Jirafabo

    The saddest part of all of this is we already know which side will win.  Whomever throws the most money at the politicians.  How this country is ran. 

  • Jennyj

    Interesting…we have great wireless broadband here in my rural area and can use the GPS system. So why can’t a company provide great WB elsewhere without changing the frequency? It should not be one technology over another.  Both can work together.

  • Cmhall9

    I don’t understand how this would be considered much less
    permitted. Geocaching aside there are so many other applications and uses for a
    GPS device. Everything from hiking to search and rescue, directions while
    driving your car to Foursquare. Cell phones are now GPS capable so do you think
    Apple and Android (Google), Verizon and AT&T are going to sit back and let
    thousands of apps become useless? When millions of people suddenly find they
    can’t use the GPS portion of their phone there’s going to be a big outcry.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rory-Gin/1500542538 Rory Gin

    Forget recreational GPS. They don’t matter.  What does matter is the FAA and flight safety.  They are the ones who have the real power to put their foot down in the name of airline safety.  Oh, and the military of course.

  • FGR3

    I have added my comment to the FCC website.  Id imagine that the police/emt/military and the FAA will have their say also since the tests show that the towers interfere with their services which are vital for safety and security.  Granted it has been shown that those companies with the most money normally win, I sincerely hope that this will not be the case.

  • Rutger

    In which country / countries would this be a problem?
    The article doesn’t mention it.

  • Rutgermooy

    Sorry – just read the first line again. US only?

  • cantuland

    LightSquared wants to use a nearby “available” spectrum of frequencies. When they send their data out to towers, the frequency is good. When the data is transmitted from there, the signal goes out as a bell curve of frequencies, with the highest output at their intended frequency. However, the nearby frequencies are included in the side areas of that bell curve and this is where their stuff “bleeds over” the frequencies used for GPS. The output to the outlying frequencies are a lot less than the peak of the curve, but it is way more powerful than the signal strength received from GPS satellites. The Department of Defense is on our side. Imagine being at the outskirts of an arena and trying to listen to someone talk to you from 5 seats away…during a rock concert.

  • Elocin100

    Please keep us up-to-date on this.  Thank. 

  • Sunwriter

    Please people, look a little deeper in to this situation.  First off the FCC will never allow Lightsquared signals to interfere with GPS. Second, if you investigate a bit further you will find that Lightsquared already has plans to move their signals further away from the GPS band, along with other measures to ensure no interference.  And last but not least, you need only to look at who is really behind this campaign to stop Lightsquared to understand what is really going on. It is no less than AT&T, Verizon and others who will stand to lose substatially due to competition if Lightsquared is allowed to move forward.

  • http://blog.geocaching.com Eric Schudiske

    Yes, US only.

  • FlagMan

    I used the link and I’ve added my comments to the FCC discussion.

  • E = Mc2

    Truly curious and not meaning to cast any negativity your way:

    Would you care to share links that back up what you posted?

  • Neuromonkey

    The author comes to some absurd conclusions. They need to check their facts. Additionally, there are a number of newer, better, more accurate alternatives in the works. None of them will break existing GPS.

  • CCCooperAgency

    ROTFL

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